"Master" Prophet Bernard Jordan

I signed up for "The Trailblazer".  He is going to "discern" my future for me...what a relief...just what I've been praying for.  The best $365 I've ever spent!

To answer your question about Master Prophet.  You see here on Earth we don't have a Master Jedi. We have a Master Prophet, which simply means the "force", is strong with this one.  It has yet to be determined which "force" it is but I believe it will be revealed in due time. 

Men like this simply prey upon the weak and the desperate. 

This is brilliant. Really, think about it. Work with me here. Bernie (sorry, Master Prophet Bernard) is selling Jesus Junk ( http://www.philcooke.com/jesus_junk ) without having to buy the junk! No warehouse needed. No crates of unused crap... nothing but a word from God (or somebody) and dang, that doesn't take up any space at all. This is like total profit. Sadly, as Bernie conjures his way to the bank, there are a line of Christians all too happy to help him out. When I produced "The 700 Club" there was a guy who was booked on the show a couple of times each year and he was known to operate in the prophetic gift. People would "casually" wander from their cubicles or edit suites, placing themselves strategically in his path so he would glance at them and per chance deliver a word from the Lord (jotted quickly down on a pad of paper by his able assistant). People are hungry for a word from God. They are so desperate that they will send thousands of dollars to Master Soothsayer Bernie in hopes that they might find direction. We don't need the Bible Answer Man (he has his own issues) or the FCC to kick Bernie in his prophetic butt (I edited out tons of great joke lines here!)... what we need are preachers to stop dribbling out seven secrets to success, or ten teasures that transform, and start speaking prophetically and directly to our generation. People are so thirsty for God that in the absence of the water of the word, they will gobble down Bernie's sand. God will judge Bernie, but we (producers, writers, editors, directors...) will also be judged if we do not deliver the prophetic truth clearly and honestly. [Here's the troubling part - Phil, why do you watch this stuff when you work out? I've heard of stress tests, but this could be dangerous.) Joe - Director of Media & Marketing - Grand Rapids First

We've all heard of the fashion police, but having theology cops is a brilliant idea. Actually, the fashion police and the theology cops will most likely be able to double charge most of their offenders. I'm afraid the amount of arrests would be staggering. I must defend Phil in his need to watch these programs. First of all, it can be very entertaining. Secondly, it's important to know why the secular world still views Christian Television in such a negative way. We need to know what's being aired in the name of Jesus... the good, the bad and the ugly.

I check out the website I think every thing is for sale. I even gave them a call to see how they would give me a word over the phone can't say I have ever seen this guy but Lord I would not want to be him on that day of judgement...

Did you check out the "art work"?  The man has redone the old masters starting with the nativity, replacing the face of Jesus with His face.

 He takes the whole concept of being created in God's image to a scary place.

Scary...

I like the Bishop's Prophetic Principle #59 - "When you start in error, you continue in error." At least he is consistent. But let's get back to Phil's question: If church leaders are judged and punishment is determined and carried out for sexual sins and other very public abuses, then why not for heresy? Are there not leaders that the Master Prophet would respect who could come around him and say, "yes, you are filling a niche, and making a bundle of money... but you have gotten off track, and you need to step back, you need to get off television and stop doing your prophetic words, and confess and seek God, and maybe someday be restored to leadership. Why do we never hear of this happening? If leaders would start holding each other accountable, maybe we would not see such drastic falls from such dizzying heights. Joe

This makes me think of when Jesus turned over tables in front of the temple. Religiosity, pride, and making money off the naivety and innocence of others, is unacceptable. God is Truth, Satan is the deceiver, and the way we live out our lives reveals who we are living with and for. As leaders, we must fight on behalf of our family who are being deceived and led away from what is True. Some may never find their way back. But in addition to the anger I feel on behalf of all who this man deceives for selfish ambition, I also feel sad and burdened for him. He, too, is very much deceived and believes in so much that is false. So many of us find ourselves at some point running on our own fuel and not living for God but for our own names sake, our own success, our own gain. Yes, this man has gone to an extreme, but the root is pride and deception. Just as it was for Ted Haggard. So as we get rightfully angry against the lies that are leading so many away from what is true and good, I encourage all of us to recognize our own humanness, and be on guard for any lies that we may be believing. The war is on, and too many great leaders are being taken out. Let's pray for each other, and ask our Abba to hold us especially tight to his chest.

I dizzern that this here is about Massive Profit. It's more of the gospel of "sell to the masses and live with the classes."

It's all about the money. That's obvious. So we should say it, condemn it, and move on.

People like this are part of the reason I'm embarrassed to be a part of anything to do with Christian television. But we've been seeded with the fear that we somehow need to be silent lest we "touch God's anointed."

Don't we owe it to the poor people that are prey to such charlatans to say something and condemn this kind of crap?

OK, check out this product description from the Master Prophet -

Mentoring: The Iconoclastic Approach to Development in Ministry
Prophetic Principle #48 - Blessings are connected with obedience. There are 9 stages of disloyalty #1 is an independent spirit.

In my experience, ministries that (overly)emphasize obedience and teach that independence is a sin (in this case disloyalty #1) are rooted in control and domination, not in freedom.

My guess is that the obedience being taught includes obedience and loyalty to the Master Prophet, especially when it comes to money. Only through complete loyalty and obedience will you be able to access the blessings of God.

Let me aks you all this - what is our responsibility when it comes to someone abusing the weakest among us in the name of Jesus?

Our Responsibility Is to confront and expose the wolf in sheep clothing that he is. Paul in the book of Acts chap 20 pleaded to tears that the time will come that men would creep in unawares. Ordained for the purpose to deceive the very elect if possible. Men teaching damndable heresies, doctrines of demons, myths and fables. Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. 20:31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. Master Illusionist Bernard is a modern day practitioner of the doctrine of the Nicolaitans. The word Nicolaitans means "conquer the laity". It was a whole movement solidified with Constantine's Nicene council in which he and 300 Bishops colluded together to come up with the Nicene Creed in 325 A.D. This Creed in essence took the liberty, truth and power away from the people and ceded it to a few politically and economically empowered mega-churches of that day. Master Illusionist Bernard is of this paradigm, this creed where they took functions of the Body of Christ i.e. elder, overseer/Bishop etc and made those functions offices. Thus creating a hierarchical system not intended by Christ or the Apostles. Just like Balaam, Master Illusionist Bernard uses his gifts for gain. Fleecing the flock. Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. We must test the fruits, try these men with the word and when they are exposed for prestidigitation in the pulpit we should shun them. These Master illusionists know most people don’t read the word, thus he can operate with near impunity. When in plain truth he is in violation of the words in red: Matthew 23:8-9, "But be not ye called Rabbi: for One is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth: for One is your Father, Which is in heaven." One is your Master…not some clown in a black turban he needs to be on the Vegas strip but not in a pulpit.

The "Theology Cops" are out there.

They're busy with the Rick Warrens and the "Emerging Church guys"

Check out:

http://www.fromthelighthouse.com/blog/index.php

http://herescope.blogspot.com/

http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/

Be sure and tell them. They really are good at analysis - whether you agree or not.

Best bargain of his website!

Prophetic Awareness Soap
This is a soap that helps bring protection and give you a greater ability to function with intuition and insight. $7 / bar

There are times when we must stand up against obvious deceit. How could a bar of soap make us better or more insightful Christians? Yet, that appears to me to be the claim here. (Although, I will confess I generally perfer Christians who bathe to the other kind. But, that's another story.) Col. 2:9 in the American Standard Version says "Take heed lest there shall be any one that maketh spoil of you through his philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of man, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ..." The main battleground in the fight against deceitful ministries probably belongs in the local churches, as close as possible to the Christians who might be fooled into financially supporting soap-peddling master prophets. With prayer and caution we should speak up, but local pastors and regional evangelists should also be speaking up.

The Myth is that:Is He really a Prophet......Thats the Myth-The Mystry is that...But What He Says Comes To Pass!!!!

In The Written Judgement -The Master Prophet Prophecied:Tsunami,911,Bush in Office,Katrina-way back- in 1989...He Saith it....and it Comes To Pass...I dont see God Confirming your Word and you Want Us to Listen to you Phill & Gang???

One More thing -I AM a testimony to the the Word of the Lord by the Master Prophet-By it I went from Ashy to Classy...and everybody who knows me knows it!

In the Old Testament, a prophet would be stoned if not 100% right.  Hmmm.

Is he still selling the prophetic soap on a rope?  I'm too scared to check.  :)

I first saw this man at 4 am on one of the christian channels I watch a few months ago , I immediately sensed that something is not right with him. It sickens me to see so many people to be drawn to this man. In my view he is a deceiver straight from hell. I have checked his website out and am amazed about how it is ALL about the money. Tonight I came across him on a website. I watched his live internet streaming tonite on www.streamingfaith.com and clearly see that he is nothing but a fraud just taking innocent peoples money all in the name of God. During this live streaming I watched as he was guilting people into buying 12 books (The Law of Thinking) because he really wants this book to be number 1 and then he wanted everyone in the chatroom approx 100 from what he said (I was not in the chatroom, but watching the live stream) to go to Amazon.com to post a comment and then got very upset that only 17 had posted to a discussion that he had started, so he made them all in the chatroom agree to post a one line comment in regard to his discussion of "I am Money" And alot did do that! The first 2 hrs of his show was all about getting people to buy at least 12 books, and would check throughout the night to see if his sale figures on the new book had gone up and they had not and he was very upset and would go on and on making people feel guilty that they had not bought 12 of his books but believe me many had!! Anyone who is a christian has to see that this man is a true deceiver and is not of the Almighty God. He does not talk very much of Jesus Christ. I read some of the amazon comments and alot of the people were saying they were GOD and that they are Money. Money is truly the main focus with this guy. In my opinion he is a glorified psychic using the name of my GOD and this upsets me terribly... When you get a reading from him you have to give a birthday which to me is the biggest indicator of a psychic. Him and his puppet prophets were all laughing at one point about what sign (virgo, gemini etc.) they were and their personalities and any true christian or prophet for that matter knows that we do not go by that kind of stuff it is ALL a part of witchcraft. It truly cannot get any clearer to me. There were people who had given $1000 in "Seed" as they called it and everyone would clap and say "Praise God" and then Jordan would call them immediately on the phone to prophecy to them but he got many things incorrect as I was watching then he would say "God why are you doing this to me"? "I hate when God does this to me" and then would ask the caller alot of questions and would then generalize his comments to them. He never talks about the money he receives going for the furthering of the Gospel as the bible says... It is just so sickening to see all these people giving their money in the name of God and it appears as if the God he is representing is not the God that christians serve!! I have no problem with people giving money, I am a tither and give offerings regularly but we are supposed to give for the furthering of the Gospel not to make someone rich. And God says to not put your focus on money but on him and he would supply all of our needs, that he is our source, not Jordan the So Called Master Prophet!!! This needs to be exposed so people can know the truth and the truth will set them free as the word of God says. There is a comment from one of his followers above that says how come he knows all the things he does, well if you read the bible it talks about how fimiliar spirits (evil spirits) can communicate with people (psychics) just like a true prophet does with the Holy Spirit.  We all know that satan copies everything that is of God to deceive people and the Bible warns us about this exact thing!!!

I totally agree with your comments about the "Master Profit". I tried to get some answers from his staff about why Bernard Jordan is fleecing God's people they however, felt that they didn't owe me an explaination and they claimed I was harrassing the ministry with my comments on their website.  This was long after I asked them to never send me any e-mails about their ministry but they continued to do it.  I have sent information to the "Bible Answer Man", as well as some pastors locally to do some research on this man so I am standing by for some replys. 

Just wondering if it's the fact that Bernard is charging without calling it a donation or first fruits, or have we gotten to a point as Christians where we doubt so much it's impossible he "just may be gifted". You all should pray and let God do the judging and it must be somewhat entertaining to bring notice on your private site. If he is not official the light will show.

I am angry a this man for bilking so many poor people, but it their fault as well for following the false prophet. I believe that if God tells someone to tell another person something, he should just tell them without a price.

I think his followers want to know their future so bad that they are willing to give all their money to hear whatever this man tells them. God does not allow us to follow psychics, it says so in the bible and by his charging for services that is all he is.

If what he tells you (OF SUBSTANCE) does not come true, then God did not tell him to tell you that (this is what God says in the word). Look at what he is telling people, most of it is generic. He might say for example "someone you know will die"....well as we all know people die everyday and sooner or later it will be somone you know!

Don't be fooled. Go to God for yourself and He will give you the answers you need....

God has a history of using a jack ass.

That does not mean we should promote one to be on TV.

Jesus spoke often in the Word of how to recognize false prophets (or the anti- Christ which simply means against Christ). The Word is judgment. If one is not a believer and follower of Christ....he is none of His as Jesus has clearly stated in the Word. It is sad to see vulnerable people who really follow and believe in people who are not aligned with the Word...what they don't realize is that they are not following Christ. The accountability falls with the leader AND the follower. I believe if you are truly meditating and studying the Word, have a definite prayer life seeking the face of the Living God diligently everyday (more than twice daily), you will not open yourself to an occasion to stumble. Spending time in the presence of the Lord changes you. God speaks to His people. Jesus says...My sheep hear my voice and the voice of a STRANGER they will not follow. The sheep of Jesus know the voice of a stranger. I can hear someone close to me speak and may not know they are near...they could have just come in the house without my knowledge. As soon as they speak I know their voice! The voice of God is the same way. In stating this, I am in no way saying that prophets are not given to the body. They are.... but so are teachers, preachers, evangelist, and Apostles. There should be a balance to everything. If Jesus is not the center of all that is being done and said.....something is definitely wrong. We need to meditate and stay close to Him to have this type of discernment. ALL of God's children are special to Him. His REAL children will give ALL the Glory to God because they realize that HE ALONE IS GOD. When a person lifts themselves up and points everything to themselves...God is not in that. God is not going to take back a gift He has given because it is being misused....but, HE IS GOING TO JUDGE THESE ACTS SEVERELY.

Well.. all I can say is, I scoured his website for just on scripture and there were absolutely none to be found... That was very alarming

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:22-23

I have been praying about the above mentioned ministry. I'm not a judge of any man, because God forbids it. I feel it's particularly important not to judge a servant of God, even if we don't fully agree with their teaching or lifestyle. SO it's not my intent to judge this man, but to attempt to bring whatever insight I can to aid others in their interpretation of this ministry. But God does want us to walk as children of Light, rightly dividing and discerning the truth of His Word. God expects His people to exercise wisdom about all things related to giving and ministries we align with. We must use spiritual wisdom and only give to ministries that have God's seal of approval on them. I haven't seen this man too many times and I no longer watch for the following reason. I know that at least one, maybe more, of his books are published by Hay House. That publishing company is affiliated with Louise Hay. I have read her books when I was in New Age. It is my belief that she is a very spiritual woman and I feel her intentions are good. But I also feel she unknowingly operates with a spirit of witchcraft. I say that because I have a thorough knowledge of God's Word through a lifetime of studying it, and attempting to rightly divide it by the Spirit of God. I have read her materials and lined them up with scriptural teaching. She is not mainstream Christianity. She is totally aligned with New Age. This was my first clue that the above mentioned ministry needed to be handled carefully. It's my belief that he probably hasn't had the spiritual maturity to learn to discern associations to a proper degree spiritually. New Age publishers may be an easier door to walk through, in publishing controversial materials. New Age embraces an abundance teaching and perhaps that was the ease with which this type of material could be published. But I feel it was a mistake on the part of the above mentioned ministry to not check out the publishers spiritual background more. I think it's been a mistake to not exercise greater wisdom and have greater understanding of such matters as a Christian leader. I feel he has probably lacked balance and depth in these matters because of his young age and not having a balanced understanding of the full counsel of God's Word. But I feel he's needed to do his homework before making any such business or spiritual alliance, as a Christian minister. Without true discernment and spiritual maturity, one can't possibly understand the results of such a union. It gives an open door to all sorts of demonic influence and deception. PLEASE Church of Jesus Christ, pray for such people and do not be defled by subtle spiritual error. That is why we need to consistently be studying God's Word and know it. That's the real key about error. If we don't know the Word thoroughly, we will not recognize error when we see or hear it. That is why many have been led astray, by having an element of truth and running with it, without being mature in the Word of God. We must be very careful about everything that comes into our lives and homes through any portal or influence. A portal is any entrance that can bring in spiritual energy. Be it an open door, window, computer line, cable line, television, phone line, reading materials, tapes, videos, books, gifts, other items or a person. Be wise and keep your lives and homes untainted by the world and unholy teachings and communion. Sometimes we have to really try things by the Spirit, seeking God and waiting upon HIM for the answer, not the opinions of men.

This young man may not have any idea he's aligned with witchcraft through this publishing company. And it may not be his only harmful association, unknowingly. It's my belief that he has lacked spiritual depth and not had a balance of spiritual understanding, not meaning to err, but aligning with Spirits that can influence through association. I feel it's a very dangerous thing to not watch our spiritual contacts, not only as lay people but particularly as spiritual leaders. Therefore, being led off the righteous path, having taken some truth and not had the maturity to discern when light has moved into a gray area. Let us know who we are receiving from and guard our hearts with all diligence.. Let us seek God well regarding any monies we distribute and where it is to go. I have truly learned as a spiritual leader to not align with any ministry or minister, without seeking God's heart and without doing a thorough background check. We must watch the lives of spiritual leaders, to see if they are balanced in their teaching and living. I do not ever want to touch God's annointed, less a curse come upon me. But I also feel a need and duty to warn others to seek God's wisdom thoroughly in all matters and relations, before aligning with them. See if there is anything that gives an indication of instability or immaturity in their spiritual walk. There is so much new age that has subtly infiltrated God's people. We must be very astute and alert to be able to judge between light and the gray areas. Please, my brothers and sisters, seek God and be alert to every ministry that is extreme where finances are concerned. There are alot of ministries that are teaching prosperity, and I believe in the Covenant Blessings of Abraham. It's scriptural. Read Deut. 14. But it must be balanced by the Word. When it comes to a ministry or minister owning a $13M or $2M dollar home, I have to draw the line. What man or woman of God needs that extravagance when people are dying of hunger and spiritual food? I don't feel it's even an appropriate image for a servant of God. Let Jesus' lifestyle be the guide. I feel it has stepped outside of God's wisdom and truth. Monies are to propagate the Gospel and to help the needy, which are abundant in this earth. Be wise! Discern through counsel of God's Word. Know the background of people you support. Study them thoroughly and put seed in good soil, that only God has approved you to support.

God's wisdom and guidance to us all!

I'm leaving off my name. But I am a minister of Jesus Christ, serving in a fulltime missionary capacity in the US,

This is a follow up on my previous post here, which is listed just above this one. I went back to do abit more research so I could offer precise, accurate information regarding the publishing company Bernard Jordan has used, Hay House. The company is in fact affiliated with New Ager Louise Hays. I've listed some of her information below, that was taken from her official website and another website that sells her products. Again, my intent is not to assault my brothers and sisters in Christ, although Louise Hay doesn't claim to be a mainline Christian. But Bernard Jordan, does claim to be a Christian Minister/Leader/Prophet. So my intent is not to assault Bernard Jordan, but to give credible, documented information on his background, that will reflect a lack of spiritual knowledge/maturity on his part, in his aligning with New Age Leaders in business and spiritual alliances. I hope you find the following information helpful. And to show I'm not a gossip, I'm also going to Bernard Jordan's official website to share my finding with him as well, for the sake of edification.

http://www.hayhouse.com/authorbio.php?id=102

Hay House was founded in 1984 by Louise L. Hay as a way to self-publish her first two books, Heal Your Body and You Can Heal Your Life (YCHYL), both of which became bestsellers and established Louise as a leader in the New Age movement. To date, YCHYL has sold more than 16 million copies worldwide and has been published in 25 languages. Today, Hay House is committed to publishing products that have a positive self-help slant conducive to healing planet Earth.

Also, below is a Louise Hays CD that is offered on the New Age website below. After reviewing the following website, it was found to contain such witchcraft topics as Divination, Hypnotherapy, Psychic and Paranormal, Teen Witch Help, etc:

http://www.mindbodyspiritshop.co.uk/acatalog/Bargain_Mind_Bo ...

Here is a Louise Hays CD for sale. Below is why I find fault with it.

Healing with the Angels CD - Doreen Virtue The Angels are powerful healers, yet they cannot help you unless you ask for their assistance. In this uplifting CD, Dr. Doreen Virtue, a metaphysical healer who works with the angelic realm, helps you discover how you can receive healing assistance from your angels. Doreen discusses various ways that angels can assist you in healing your physical challenges, relationships, finances, careers, friends and family members; as well as helping to ensure your physical safety. She also leads you through a powerful meditation that invites archangels, and your own guardian angels, to heal every area of your life. You’ll meet Archangel Gabriel, who brings you angel affirmations and visualizations; Archangel Michael, who assists you with spirit releasement; and Archangel Uriel, who helps you build self esteem and confidence. You’ll love how the angels help you feel refreshed, energized and revitalized

My comment: The problem I have with the Louise Hay CD, as well as with many New Age Teachers/Leaders/Writers is that some of their teachings are a direct violation of scripture. God's Word says that if we choose any POWER (angelic, or other power) other than the power of God, a curse will come upon us. (I forget the text on this scripture, but it's there.) The CD is clearly encouraging people to call on Angels to assist them. There is nowhere in scripture that we are given permission to call upon an angel. Because the spirit realm is filled with good and evil spirits, those who are not strong spiritually, and who don't have Biblical knowledge can open themselves to demonic spirits unknowingly. This is a great danger.

There is another problem I have with Bernard Jordan's teaching. He teaches "The Law of Attraction", which is a teaching going around the internet, and reaching millions. The problem with this teaching, although somewhat Biblical, is that it doesn't allow room for God in one's planning and envisioning the future. All efforts are made by self, therefore propagating a Humanistic ideology. I've enclosed Pastor Tom Brown's (Pastor/Evangelist in El,Paso, TX) comments about "The Law of Attraction" below. It is the best explanation of the teaching from a solid Christian standpoint that I've seen. It is on his website:

http://tbm.org/law_of_attraction.htm

Blessings as you seek to know the truth and follow in the principles of scripture and not the ideas of man.

We should change his title from "Master Prophet" to "Master Profit".

Although their are many views on this topic, we should not judge any one. We all have a thorn in our side and sins that we hopelfully are trying to get dilivered from. Rather you agree or disagree with Bishop Jordan. Understand that he is a man of God, it does not matter who we like are dislike or rather they are using their gift in the heavenly realm or the zodiac realm.

Saul was anoited by God as king although God fired him from being king and anoited David as king, David could have killed Saul but he couldnt touch him because God anoited him. That is why David said touch not my anoited and do my prophets no harm. I understand that some of you all are hurt and sickend by this, understand that the vengance is the Lord and he will repay if he is doing things out of the will of God. It is not our job to critisize someone who is weak in faith and if they are not doing what we feel the will of God is. In the old testaments we couldnt go to the Prophets or even the priest without a gift neither the king. Thats why the scripture says our gift will make room for us.

Bishop Jordan has touched many lives through the word of God that came out of his mouth. Maybe it is not your season for your prophecy are you just dont believe in the Gift at all because of many people who claim to be prophets and that are teaching false doctrine. You have to pray for them if you are really strong in the word of God and also have a strong prayer life then the Bible states We who are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak. We have to take our mouths off of the woman and the man that God sends trust me God will deal with those who have their own doctrine other than the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus even said many should come to him on that day saying Lord Lord did I heal in your name did I prophesy in your name and he will say depart from me you worker of inquity I knew you not. Let Jesus say that not us we have to pray for the man and woman of God and let God be the judge. If you feel that it is not God you dont have to recieve it but keep your mouth shut because they are still God anoited.

Dont let your pride get in the way too because you as just as wrong as the person who is doing the wrong. Because you are bearing false witness we dont know what God is telling him we dont, dont knock those who gives 3,000 for the school of the prophets, dont they have Theology Schools online thats not free neither. Please for your sakes dont bash him for that lift him up in prayer like they say the one finger you are pointing at others there are more fingers pointing at you so dont judge pray. You are not perfect neither and I am not neither we all have sins that we are dealing with every day. God Bless You all and pray for the prophet there is a blessing when you pray for others that is what we are here for to be intercessors be the body that builds up the kingdom and not tear down. Be a WHEAT and not a TARE.

I just came to see what is going on in here and the only thing that is in my mind is to bless you all regardless of what I see. We all need to grow up in God and God wants us to be one.

Have an outstanding day.

Here is the sad but true fact about having a gift- "-It comes without repentance"- so what that means is that Father blesses us with certain gifts; like prophecy, for instance and we can move in them but still be have a faulty life or agenda. Balaam was "once" a prophet who ended with the legacy of "sorcerer" because he used his gift to curse instead of bless, he used his gift for personal gain aligning himself with the enemies of God's people. In other words, aligning himself against the one True God. I'm not accusing Prophet Jordan of anything, I am not his judge, but what I will say is it is sad when people try to defend wrong. If anyone's actions go against the word of the Living God then we should be sideing with the Living God. Just because some of his prophecy's have come to pass and you went from "ashy-to-classy" (as someone stated) doesn't mean he is not human and can not fall into deception. We have to know the WORD for ourselves, so that when seductive, deceptive spirits come along we can discern them for what they are. As a matter of fact we should pray for the spirit of discernment. Your spirit should be alarmed when prophecy's are for sale. I mean, we should sow a seed- that is scripture and in turn we reap a blessing, but when we turn or gifts into a business? please. Jesus when stark-raving mad when they were selling in the temple. Church is turning into this. Wake up.

The Anointing on Bernard Jordan's life is amazing. The presence of God around him is also powerful. Although I do not fully understand the money, I know that if the money is used for God's work, it is good money.

Many of you even in this room who are critical of this man, do not know him. Nor do you know God. Because if you knew God, you would recognize the anointing upon his life. Money and ministry go hand and hand. Without money, those who are ministers would not be able to give into your life, because there focus would be upon self, as to survive.

If Bernard Jordan was wrong, wouldn't you think the government would shut him down as they have investigated everyone else? Even those Televangilists that you watch? But with 30 years experience, he continues to prove that he is called, for the work of God will always prove the test of time. Money should never come first, perhaps the approach should be different. Many people such as yourself are not opposed in giving to a ministry. But with this said, think about this clearly and with intelligence.

Go to any MAJOR ministry and ask them to speak into your life. Go to any well-known minister and ask them for a word from God. I have come to the conclusion that Bernard Jordan is not so much after your money as you think he is, because much of his money is given away. There is nothing wrong with being wealthy. But there is something wrong with being wealthy and not helping people. He continues to speak into Millions of lives and he is equipping many people for self-improvement.

I think we should re-evaluate our approach and look at the good side of this man, rather than all the negative. Your sinful desires pull out the negative, but if you had the perception of Christ, you would see people through the eyes of love.

Stephen Choate

Founder and Creator of

www.SpeakGodSpeak.com

Seems like you have a formula down. If you don't know the annointing of Jordon then you don't know God.

It does seem that the Bible says that the person who normally fills this type of Role is Jesus.

I prefer to keep the focus on Jesus. Good luck in your choice.

One day I stubbled across his ministry on tv, prophecising and encouraging viewers to call in to receive a prophecy. Well, I called this number 800-296-1941 and got a recording of him speaking and instructing me to leave my name, address, and birthday, and that I will receive a letter giving a shocking secret that has happened in my life. At this point, I'm like wow!, if this man can reveal to me what that shocking secret was, then I have no reason to doubt him. So, I waited and waited and waited for months, finally I received the letter. Anxiously, reading the letter there was not a shocking secret that was revealed. But, there was talk about what God intends to do for me if I sow this seed of a small amount (don't remember). When he did not follow through on his promise, I decided he was a fake who was just after money. Then one day I received another letter talking about what God has in store for me if I sow this seed (different amount). As time past more letters came, and then they stopped. Well today I received a call from NY. I didn't recognize the caller id, but was curious and answered. This time it was another recording telling me to call 641-594-7500 and to give this conference code 359013# for a conference with Master Prophet because God has instructed him to prophecy to me. I made this long distance call and followed the rules, and instantly I was able to here a conference which included him and other prophets calling names of individuals who have sow a seed from $37-$352 dollars. A prophet was assigned to that individual to give their prophecy, and then followed with Master Prophets prophecy. Furthermore, some givers would be instructed after sowing a seed of $35 dollars to sow $352 dollar more because they had more prophecy and counseling and offers to share with them. Anybody that gave $118 would receive a book of prophecy that included about Barack Obama becoming the President of the United States and that African Americans should not rejoice in this because there will be much suffering amongst them. That Barack will be a puppet of munipulation, etc. But, because of the problems I'm having in my life currently I wanted to here something that may be positive about me. So, I called a number 212-316-2177 given by him to sow a seed for $37 , and then called back to NY hoping to hear my name called during the conference. While listening he said to call this number 800-296-1941 to receive a letter from him. Well I did, and what did I get , that same recording telling me that he had a shocking secret to reveal about me. At this point the doubt in my MIND was heavy,I felt so STUPID,and swindled by this man. Now, I wanted to call my bank to put a stop on this payment. As I was thinking of this, the phone rang, it was the NY call. The lady that took my information from my card said that my card would not go through, and she repeated the numbers back to me to confirm. She then asked me did I want to use another card. Feeling so grateful to God, I said no.

GOD YOU ARE AWSOME!!!! THIS IS ANOTHER REMINDER TO SEEK YOU FIRST AND HAVE FAITH THAT YOU WILL WORK THINGS OUT. PLEASE NEVER LEAVE MY SIDE

Read 1 corinthians chapter 12: 1-11

The only thing that bothers me is that as born again believers our job is to preach the gospel to every living creature and bring people closer to christ, and yet, as believers it seems like the only thing that we are worrying about is pride and money, this is why we have so many people today in society that do not believe in GOD because they are watching us so called christians acting a fool on television, church, and around the world. As a born again believer i decided to stop listening to all these people that calls themselves prophets and just pray for them and be sensitive to the holy spirit, seek the kingdom of GOD FISRT! Do his commandmentsvand be obedient to his word, believe me he will pour you out a blessing its just that simple, and in the end for all of you wonderful works on eart GOD will say "well done thy good and faithful servant"

God bless you all!!