Christianity Today On The Grassley Investigation

"But not receiving reimbursements, apparently, were the donating partners who paid for “Bling One.”"

In your statement (rant) why would the partners look for a reimbursement? That does not even make sense.

If I have a company car that is for work use only and I ask to use it on the weekend to go out of state and have to reimburse them for the mileage and cost how is that wrong?It is no different then what the Copeland's have done. I'm not one of their partners or supports but I honestly don't see anything wrong with what they are doing.

"What can you expect from a TV ministry that spends less than half the money it receives on TV ministry?"

Well how much should they spend on TV? (I bet you have a number for them.) If they feel that they are ministering to millions of people around the world through daily TV isn't that a more effective way of spending the money then traveling around speaking to a few thousand a month in person at local meetings?

Sometimes I think people need to step back and pull the plank out of their own eye .

I’ve been there, that’s why I am here. Exactly who does have a right to question Copeland about where the money goes? Copeland put on a exhalent performance at his latest ministers conference, visible at http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/copelandclips , in which has now gotten the attention of people all across the USA, and abroad. If I didn’t personally know better, one would actually think he cares about the protection of all his followers (partners),that pour money into his ministry. Requesting a summery of my mothers (Bonnie Parker) contributions, a long time partner of KCM, we like Grassley got little or no response. (Request viewable at http://sis359.blogspot.com/ ). If their partners aren’t entitled to this privileged information, even though they are funding this lavish lifestyle KCM has grown very accustom to, nor is the Senate entitled either, then who is? The IRS perhaps? Are the teachings of the Prosperity Gospel message being misconstrued? Do we, any of us, have a valid argument, or the right to ask for these records ? I believe with all my heart, we should let the ones affected most by this money making scam have a say in determining the answer to those questions.. “ I had a home“, “I had a life“, “I had faith“, “I had a family“, “I lost a loved one“, “I have no clue what the truth is anymore!” “I will never trust any form of religion.” these are merely a handful of endless testimonies coming to light nationwide. Ranging from all walks of life, their heartbreaking testimonies can be found throughout the web, yet inconceivably, victims are being labeled as fools, ignorant, and basically downright blind for not seeing the truth behind the Prosperity Gospels falsehoods. ” Being only human, our quest for health and wealth, regrettably does lead some in the wrong direction. Promises and guaranties, made by the Prosperity Gospel ministers, give people that have not obtained these blessings on their own, a second chance at achieving their goals in life. An important discovery I made while reviewing testimonies, revealed the fact numerous victims had very little knowledge of the Prosperity Gospels dark side. These unfortunate victims, appear to be equipped with only a small portion of the web of deceit these ministers weave . Picture yourself being raised in a small country town, with a population of only a few hundred, the closest city, only a population of only a few thousand. Computers, internet, cable, satellite TV, and other high tech gadgets are not needed or desired. You are living a simple , solemn life you wouldn’t trade for any amount of cash. After your working day is done, you gladly remove your shoes, kick back in your easy chair, and relax without a care in the world for a while. After flipping on the TV to view the local evening news broadcast, you are reminded to give thanks that you don’t have the worries that accompany life outside the safe haven of your home, and your community. Religion is your safeguard, your faith is strong, and you have no doubts about the truth behind your sacred beliefs. This was my life, before KCM. Prosperity Gospel ministers enter the homes of many victims though a thirty minute Sunday morning worship service on a local broadcast station. Growing up in Jigger La., truly located in the middle of nowhere, I can testify to the fact that we only received on a clear day about three or four channels at most. Warnings of dangers associated with Prosperity Gospel ministries, made by critics, ministers, and victims go unheard, therefore tragically for many, when the realization of this scam is discovered it is already to late. Family’s have lost their homes, lifesavings, and some even their lives due to the Prosperity Gospels misleading doctrines. Unfortunately my mother was not one of the lucky ones, her confidence, and faith in this false Gospel, ultimately cost her, her life. After more than a decade of programming her mind to believe and think the Prosperity Gospel way of life, she lost her battle with cancer. By refusing medical attention, she sealed her fate, but the programming she had acquired from Kenneth and Gloria Copeland proved strong all the way to her last breath. A diary she left behind revealed the horrific tale of her life from 1992-2002, the top of each page titled with Kenneth Copeland, Gloria Copeland, or BVOV. Some mistakes in life we can not undo, and good intentions don’t always go as planed, these victims are simply following misleading promises of health and wealth. The use of miraculous healing confessions, and newly found wealth testimonies, are their sales pitch, sadly my mom among many other are proof that their sale pitch works. The possibility these Mega churches were misusing finances for personal luxuries is what brought this scam to the publics attention, not the loss of life, the financially bankrupt, and numerous homeless victims they have been left in the wake of this devastating hoax. So, do we continue blaming the victims, or do we stand up beside them, learn from there mistakes, and put an end to these senseless tragedies? Even I being a victims daughter have many lingering questions, such as follows, “How is it that some see the truth, and others do not?” ” What leads these victim to believe the unbelievable?” “ Are some more vulnerable to these sort of money making scams than others When all is said and done, perhaps they will be tagged, not as the Prosperity Gospel, but the false gospel. One Quote from Copelands mouth should erases any doubts of KCM innocence, “It’s not yours, it’s God’s and you’re not going to get it and that’s something I’ll go to prison over. So, just get over it!” The family of Bonnie Parker E-MAIL sis359@gmail.comPhoto, before and after KCM,http://picasaweb.google.com/sis359/BonnieParkerDiaryPhot oDocumentary Suffer The Children, exposes televangelists lavish lifestyles ,http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/suffer-childrenBook recently published by Sara Posner, also looks into these subjects,http://www.amazon.com/Gods-Profits-Republican-Crusa de-Values/dp/0979482216

I agree. Let's not change the Bible. Let's listen to Jesus' Sermon on the Mount and not try to make the American Dream and the pursuit of wealth sound spiritual.

We need to understand the culture to reach it. We need to make the message culturally relevant to reach those in the culture.

Christ's message is about changing the culture, not the culture becoming the message. Health and Wealth for its own sake is the easiest message in the world to sell to this culture because it appeals to sinful human nature. There's nothing spiritual about it that can't be found in the mainstream culture.

Cory and Kent, nice, sensible comments. I am convinced that there are some people who choose to remain in spiritual and scriptural ignorance. That just doesn't always occur in the body of Christ. I have seen it in the professional world, as well. God, Himself, could come down from heaven and tell them eye to eye and they would still say the sky is yellow when it is blue. It is only through heart felt prayer and seeking for truth in the Word of God, that revelation knowledge will come.